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Apple targets dozens of OpenAI employees with legal letters

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Article URL: https://www.ft.com/content/1b8c9d52-88a9-426b-ba47-f1811f859166

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48946303

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  1. scrlk

    https://archive.ph/3J3iw

  2. Zigurd

    Everybody wants a platform but nobody wants to spend what it takes to make a platform. That includes things like Windows Phone, Fire Phone, all the glasses, Humane, etc. As much as everybody hates on OpenAI for chaotic management, they did buy Jony Ive and are presumably giving him everything he wants to build a platform for them. Even though it probably only buys them a 20% chance of success, they haven't doomed the project by underestimating what it takes budget-wise. And they blew it. Maybe they blew it by not realizing that even long time Apple employees could get arrogant about security. Or maybe it was a loose ethical environment in general. Whatever is it the root or the problem, they set billions of dollars on fire maybe tens of billions, by being unnecessarily cute about Apple proprietary information when they could've been above reproach. They had the resources to hire all the

  3. deepwoods

    FT frames this as some aggressive escalation tactic, but document retention letters are extremely standard practice. At this point they're basically a formality, as any former Apple employee at OpenAI really ought to know by now that they could get dragged into this. Hold letters can be aggressive if you send them before you've even filed a complaint, but if anything, Apple is late to the party with these.

  4. reenorap

    Apple must have hard evidence on this. I can’t believe they would take it this far without already knowing they are going to win. If they have to fire a huge chunk of their hardware employees it’s going to throw their IPO plans into chaos.

  5. symfoniq

    OpenAI only exists due to the theft of content created by others. If Apple’s accusations prove to be true, it just means that OpenAI is consistent.

  6. bix6

    Predictions on who wins? Does Apple actually have a winnable case or are they just throwing a wrench in things?

  7. lapelusa

    "OpenAI said it had “no interest” in other companies’ trade secrets." Of course they say that. As if their product can't just go anywhere it wants just through any user. Who's to say that they are not routing their info 'grabbing' through some executives at Apple that use ChatGPT?

  8. zarzavat

    It's insane to cross Apple. In the worst case Apple could take the ChatGPT app down like they did to Fortnite. They are probably waiting for discovery to find out how high this goes.